Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

03/08/2022 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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03:14:41 PM Start
03:15:51 PM Presentation(s): Kinross Gold Ore Trucking Proposal
04:19:32 PM Presentation(s): Dot&pf and the Kinross Ore Trucking Proposal
04:36:51 PM Presentation(s): Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways
05:35:34 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Meeting Postponed to 3:00 pm --
-- Teleconference <Listen Only> --
Joint with House Transportation
+ Presentation: Kinross Gold Ore Trucking Proposal TELECONFERENCED
Invited Testimony by Chief Michael Sam, Village
of Tetlin
+ Presentation: DOTPF and the Kinross Ore Trucking TELECONFERENCED
Proposal by Commissioner Ryan Anderson and Joe
Kemp, Northern Region Director; DOTPF
+ Presentation: Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                           3:14 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Grier Hopkins, Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Sara Hannan, Vice Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                
 Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                       
 Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                    
 Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Josiah Patkotak, Chair                                                                                          
 Representative Grier Hopkins, Vice Chair                                                                                       
 Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                     
 Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                 
 Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                      
 Representative Ronald Gillham                                                                                                  
 Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                     
 Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  KINROSS GOLD ORE TRUCKING PROPOSAL                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S):  DOT&PF AND THE KINROSS ORE TRUCKING PROPOSAL                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S):  ADVOCATES FOR SAFE ALASKA HIGHWAYS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY BRANS, General Manager                                                                                                   
Kinross Fort Knox                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a PowerPoint presentation on the                                                                    
Kinross gold ore trucking proposal.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL SAM, Chief                                                                                                              
Village of Tetlin                                                                                                               
Tetlin, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered invited testimony during the                                                                     
presentation on the Kinross gold ore trucking proposal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner Designee                                                                                            
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a presentation on DOT&PF and the                                                                    
Kinross gold ore trucking proposal.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA SCHUMANN                                                                                                                
Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a PowerPoint presentation,                                                                  
titled "An Alaskan Plea for Safety."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JOHN COOK                                                                                                                       
Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a PowerPoint presentation,                                                                  
titled "An Alaskan Plea for Safety."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY BRANS, General Manager                                                                                                   
Kinross Fort Knox                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
by Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner Designee                                                                                            
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
by Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:14:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRIER  HOPKINS  called  the joint  meeting  of  the  House                                                             
Transportation  Standing   Committee  and  the   House  Resources                                                               
Standing  Committee  to  order  at  3:14  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Hopkins,  Patkotak,  McKay,   McCabe,  Cronk,  Gilham,  Rauscher,                                                               
Hannan, Drummond  (via teleconference)  were present at  the call                                                               
to order.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Kinross Gold Ore Trucking Proposal                                                                           
      PRESENTATION(S):  Kinross Gold Ore Trucking Proposal                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
3:15:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be a presentation on the Kinross gold ore trucking proposal.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY  BRANS,  General  Manager,   Kinross  Fort  Knox,  gave  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation, titled "Manh  Choh Project Update" [hard                                                               
copy  included  in  the  committee packet],  dated  3/8/22.    He                                                               
explained that  Kinross, a  value-based company,  was one  of the                                                               
world's largest  gold producers  that took  a legacy  approach to                                                               
new  projects.   Fort Knox  celebrated 25  years of  operation in                                                               
Fairbanks with  total contributions  of $127 million  in property                                                               
taxes,  $50 million  in state  taxes, and  715 direct  jobs.   He                                                               
emphasized   Kinross's  positive   impact  on   local  and   host                                                               
communities.   The Manh Choh  project was  an open pit  gold mine                                                               
near  Tetlin,   Alaska  with  a  45-year    life  prediction  and                                                               
estimated total  production of  one ounces  of gold.   Production                                                               
would start  in 2024 and  bring hundreds  of good paying  jobs to                                                               
the region with an average  annual wage of $130,000, boosting the                                                               
local economy.  The anticipated cost  was over $1 billion for the                                                               
course of the project.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRANS conveyed  that Tetlin  were  Upper Tanana  Athabascans                                                               
with a predominantly  subsistence lifestyle.  The  land was owned                                                               
entirely by the Tetlin Village,  not part of Alaska Native Claims                                                               
Settlement  Act (ANCSA).   He  noted Kinross's  effort to  foster                                                               
relationships   in   the  area   with   the   Tetlin  Tribe   and                                                               
stakeholders.   The new  business model  was to  mine the  ore at                                                               
Manh   Choh  and   truck   it  to   Fort   Knox  using   existing                                                               
infrastructure.  The ore transport plan  was the only way to make                                                               
a profit  on the project  due to  the difficulty of  amortizing a                                                               
medium  size  deposit; it  would  also  reduce the  environmental                                                               
impact at the project site.   However, residents and users of the                                                               
Alaska  and Richardson  Highways  may  experience increased  road                                                               
traffic along the route.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF  MICHAEL SAM,  Chief,  Village of  Tetlin,  shared that  as                                                               
elected Tetlin Tribal chief, his primary  job was to look out for                                                               
the  physical,  social, and  financial  well-being  of his  Tribe                                                               
members.   The  Manh Choh  project exacts  long-term revenue  and                                                               
funding  opportunities and  would help  train the  workforce with                                                               
transferrable skills  to other projects  in Alaska.   The project                                                               
team was  in constant communication  with the  community, keeping                                                               
them  informed  every step  of  the  way  to ensure  that  Tribal                                                               
culture and traditions were protected.   In response to committee                                                               
questions, Chief  Sam stated  that Manh  Choh would  provide more                                                               
opportunities  for  the  people  of  Tetlin.   His  goal  was  to                                                               
implement  water sewer  infrastructure with  the money  coming in                                                               
from the project,  employ Alaskans, and boost  the local economy.                                                               
The population  of Tetlin was  125, of which 50  were able-bodied                                                               
employees; Tribal membership was around 300 members.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:05:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRANS resumed  the  presentation  on the  topic  of the  ore                                                               
transport  plan.   The trucks  were  similar to  double fuel  and                                                               
cargo trailers with a payload of  45 tons driving at an estimated                                                               
2  to 4  trucks per  hour  in each  direction.   Kinross and  its                                                               
trucking partners  promised to implement a  strong safety culture                                                               
through   recruitment,   training,  driver   safety,   structured                                                               
contracts,   real   time    vehicle   monitoring,   purpose-built                                                               
equipment, and a commitment to drive to conditions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  DOT&PF and the Kinross Ore Trucking                                                                          
Proposal                                                                                                                        
    PRESENTATION(S):  DOT&PF and the Kinross Ore Trucking                                                                   
                          Proposal                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
a  presentation  by the  Department  of  Transportation &  Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF) on the Kinross ore tucking proposal.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN   ANDERSON,    Commissioner   Designee,   Office    of   the                                                               
Commissioner,  Department of  Transportation &  Public Facilities                                                               
(DOT&PF),  stated  that  highway   safety  and  fair  access  was                                                               
DOT&PF's  top priority.   The  department had  attended Kinross's                                                               
public meetings  and supported the  legal use of  state highways.                                                               
The  route from  Manh  Choh to  Fort Knox  was  classified as  an                                                               
interstate highway that  had been maintained by a  fair amount of                                                               
federal  funds.   The  department was  working  with its  federal                                                               
partners  to evaluate  the  use of  the corridor  in  a way  that                                                               
addressed public and stakeholder concerns.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   DESIGNEE  ANDERSON,   in  response   to  committee                                                               
questions,  clarified  that  a   formalized  plan  had  not  been                                                               
submitted  by  Kinross.    An ideal  plan  would  address  DOT&PF                                                               
statutes, regulations,  and safety  aspects.  The  department was                                                               
considering investment  in Richardson  Highway with  the addition                                                               
of passing  lanes with or without  Manh Choh.  He  estimated that                                                               
building a new bridge on the Alaska Highway would be an eight-                                                                  
to-nine-year project in total.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways                                                                           
    PRESENTATION(S):  Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:36:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
a presentation by the Advocates for Safe Alaska Highways (ASAH).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:37:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  SCHUMANN, Advocates  for  Safe  Alaska Highways  (ASAH),                                                               
gave  a  PowerPoint presentation,  titled  "An  Alaskan Plea  for                                                               
Safety"  [hard  copy included  in  the  committee packet].    She                                                               
emphasized that ASAH was opposed  to the transportation plan, not                                                               
the  mine  itself, and  expressed  concern  about public  safety,                                                               
infrastructure,  liability,   and  environmental  impact.     She                                                               
believed that  the project  would take longer  than four  to five                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN COOK,  Advocates for Safe Alaska  Highways (ASAH), described                                                               
the  Kinross trucking  proposal  as  an unprecedented  logistical                                                               
plan  on a  scale that  had never  been done  before.   He shared                                                               
statistics  on the  potential  impact  to the  road  system.   In                                                               
addition, Kinross had not submitted a peer reviewed safety plan.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHUMANN   and  MR.  COOK  continued   the  presentation  by                                                               
discussing accident  liability.  They posited  that Kinross would                                                               
not claim responsibility  for accidents based on  an explosion at                                                               
a Kinross gold mine  in Ghana in January 2022.   The state may be                                                               
targeted for liability  based on the common law duty  of due care                                                               
for  highways users.   To  date, there  had been  no analysis  of                                                               
capital and maintenance costs, and  the Richardson highway was in                                                               
need of  care.  The  route was a  DOT&PF priority two  for winter                                                               
maintenance.   Driving  192 to  384 semi-trucks  at 80  tons each                                                               
would  hinder  the  air  quality  in  the  Fairbanks  North  Star                                                               
Borough.   ASAH  asked the  following of  Kinross and  the state:                                                               
hold  public  forums,  consider alternatives,  task  DOT&PF,  the                                                               
Department  of  Conservation (DEC),  and  the  Department of  Law                                                               
(DOL) to initiate an analysis  of the transport plan, and address                                                               
potential liability and State Implementation Plan (SIP) impacts.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:04:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY BRANS, General Manager, Kinross  Fort Knox, indicated that                                                               
Kinross would continue  to hold public forums.  He  said ASAH was                                                               
not   offering   productive   conversations  or   solutions   and                                                               
falsifying calculations.   Per DOT&PF, road  improvements for the                                                               
corridor were already in the works.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RYAN   ANDERSON,    Commissioner   Designee,   Office    of   the                                                               
Commissioner,  Department of  Transportation &  Public Facilities                                                               
(DOT&PF),  in response  to committee  questions, said  structural                                                               
deficiencies in  the bridges were being  monitored and addressed,                                                               
but could handle the load.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRANS,  in  response   to  additional  committee  questions,                                                               
assured the  committee that a standard  operating procedure (SOP)                                                               
would be  in place.   $50 million would not  cover the cost  of a                                                               
new  mill.    Wetlands  would be  minimally  impacted.    Kinross                                                               
considered  alternatives,  such   as  railroad  convoys,  pioneer                                                               
roads,   building  a   mill;  however,   the  options   were  not                                                               
economically  feasible.    The   trucking  plan  was  precedented                                                               
throughout the U.S. and Alaska, he added.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:35:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation  Standing   Committee  and  the   House  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 5:35 p.m.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
ASAH Presentation - 3.8.2022.pdf HRES 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
Manh Choh Project
ASAH Sheet - Executive Summary - 3.8.2022.pdf HRES 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
Manh Choh Project
Kinross Presentation - 3.8.2022.pdf HRES 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
Manh Choh Project
ASAH Sheet - Letter to DOTPF Commissioner - 3.8.2022.pdf HRES 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
Manh Choh Project
ASAH Sheet - Kinross by the Numbers - 3.8.2022.pdf HRES 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/8/2022 1:00:00 PM
Manh Choh Project